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| Naslov: SF literatura. 2/2/2008, 21:28 | |
| Sta ste poslednje citali iz sf oblasti ako ste uopste citali. I ako uopste znate da citate jer u Srbiji ima 15% nepismenih jel. A kompjuterski nepismenih ima preko 50%. Jebes drzavu. Al bice bolje.
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Dan Simmons : Ilion & Olimp
Ukupno se sastoji od tri toma. Ispreplice se prica o nekim robotima na Jupiterovim mesecima - moravecima, sa buducom sudbinom ljudi na Zemlji a sve zajedno sa drugim dimenzijama i nekim mmonstrumom Setebom koji ima oblik ogromnog mozga sa milijardama malih rucica. Tu se svi jure i na kraju posle 2000 strana malo suntav kraj. | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 3/2/2008, 02:10 | |
| Ranije je postojao casopis alef jesi citao nesto od toga to su sf romani sve su poznati pisci pisali imam desetak kuci | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 3/2/2008, 09:12 | |
| imas!!! pa to moras da mi pozajmis da pogledam malo... | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 3/2/2008, 11:32 | |
| vazi ima price od sema lundvala reja bredberija isaka asimova borisa nikolskog | |
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| Isaak Asimov was born 1920 in Petrovk (Russia). 1923 emigrated its family into the USA. In the 50's Asimov laid down its Professur for biochemistry at the University of Boston, and lived from then on of its Schriftstellerei. It is considered today as one of the most productive writers of the world. Except its numerous Science Fiction novels he wrote popular-scientific special books for adults and children. Up to its death on 6 April 1992 in New York it published over 500 kurzgeschichten, novels and scientific essays. It seems to give however still very much unpublished material, so that also after its death still some works appeared. Isaac Asimov is the author of the robot laws. Even before his official entry into the mystery scene in The Caves Of Steel (1953), Isaac Asimov's science fiction books often exhibited mystery technique. In particular, his great Foundation Trilogy (1941 - 1950) consists of a series of long short stories, each of which has affinities to the formal detective story. Each has a complex plot, and there is usually a surprise ending which reveals hidden aspects to the situation, just as the solution does to a mystery story. Similarly, the stories contained in I, Robot are often science fictional mysteries. A robot is misbehaving: what could possibly cause this? Investigation ultimately reveals the solution to the puzzle. Asimov also wrote non series sf works in the same mystery format, most importantly, "Hostess" (1951). There are no murders or official detectives in these tales, but their status as stories in which mysterious situations are ultimately elucidated, certainly makes them close relatives of the mystery genre. The brilliant plot complexity of the Foundation Trilogy , in particular, marks it out as one of the best works of science fiction. | |
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| Ray Bradbury is one of the immortals among us, whose classic works of SF, fantasy and horror will be read a thousand years from now by our descendents and the inhabitants of the planets of a thousand distant stars. Ray is a winner of the Nebula, Prometheus, O.Henry Memorial, Balrog, Bram Stoker, Benjamin Franklin, Aviation-Space Writers and World Fantasy (Lifetime Achievement) Awards. It's surely redundant to say he's a SFWA Grand Master. He has won the Gandalf Award for Lifetime Contribution to Fantasy (in 1980), and published his first story in 1941. A writer for TV, radio, theater and film, his credits including a script for the film Moby Dick. His show The Ray Bradbury Theatre is currently showing on the Sci-Fi Channel. Mel Gibson will star in and direct a new remake of Ray's classic Fahrenheit 451, slated for release in 1999. | |
Ray Bradbury is one of the immortals among us, whose classic works of SF, fantasy and horror will be read a thousand years from now by our descendents and the inhabitants of the planets of a thousand distant stars. Ray is a winner of the Nebula, Prometheus, O.Henry Memorial, Balrog, Bram Stoker, Benjamin Franklin, Aviation-Space Writers and World Fantasy (Lifetime Achievement) Awards. It's surely redundant to say he's a SFWA Grand Master. He has won the Gandalf Award for Lifetime Contribution to Fantasy (in 1980), and published his first story in 1941. A writer for TV, radio, theater and film, his credits including a script for the film Moby Dick. His show The Ray Bradbury Theatre is currently showing on the Sci-Fi Channel. Mel Gibson will star in and direct a new remake of Ray's classic Fahrenheit 451, slated for release in 1999. Ray's fiction comes in both heavy-duty novel-length parcels and the handy, travel-size short-story package for ease and convenience, and his work is brilliant in both forms. His novels include Fahrenheit 451 (Locus Award, 1987; Prometheus Award, 1984), The Halloween Tree, Death is a Lonely Business, Something Wicked This Way Comes (Locus Award, 1987), A Graveyard for Lunatics, Green Shadows and White Whale. His short-fiction has been collected or included in nearly uncountable anthologies and collections, including Dark Carnival, The Silver Locusts, Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow, The Golden Apples of the Sun, The October Country, Dandelion Wine, A Medicine for Melancholy, The Day It Rained Forever, R Is for Rocket, The Small Assassin, The Anthem Sprinters and Other Antics, The Machineries of Joy, The Autumn People, S Is for Space, Tomorrow Midnight, Twice 22, The Vintage Bradbury, I Sing the Body Electric, The Wonderful Ice Cream Suit and Other Plays, When Elephants Last in the Dooryard Bloomed, Pillar of Fire and Other Plays, Long After Midnight, Beyond 1984: A Remembrance of Things Future, The Haunted Computer and the Android Pope, The Complete Poems of Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451, The Stories of Ray Bradbury Volume 2 and The Stories of Ray Bradbury (Locus Award, 1981). Bradbury's stories and novels have been adapted for the screen, both large and small. The Martian Chronicles (1980 miniseries), Vino iz oduvanchikov (1996 miniseries), Any Friend of Nicholas Nickleby Is a Friend of Mine (1981 TV), The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms (1953), Fahrenheit 451 (1966), The Illustrated Man (1969), It Came From Outer Space (1953), It Came From Outer Space II (1996), King of Kings (1961), Moby Dick (1956), The Murderer (1976), The Picasso Summer (1969), Quest (1983), Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983), and Trinadtsaty apostol (1988). He was born in Waukegan, Illinois on August 22, 1920. He lived in Illinois until about 1933-34, when his family headed out to live in Los Angeles, but first lived very shortly in Tucson, Arizona. He graduated from Los Angeles High School in 1938, then spent most of his time at the library, where (according to Ray) he graduated from the library at the age of 28. He and his family still live in Los Angeles, California. | |
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| Isak Asimov (2. januar 1920- 6. april 1992) Dobri doktor za robote | Isak Asimov | | Isak Asimov (1920-1992) svakako spada u nekolicinu autora koji su, decenijama već, laički sinonim za ’pravog’ pisca naučne fantastike. Profil takvog pisca podrazumeva nekoliko bitnih odlika: visoko naučno-tehnološko obrazovanje, prisutnost u medijima i sposobnost da se piše za široku publiku, što će reći razumljivo, bez literarnih egzibicija. Asimov je doktorirao hemiju i do 1958. godine predavao na Bostonskom univerzitetu da bi potom prešao u ’slobodne umetnike’. Vanredna marljivost u pisanju naučno popularnih i naučno fantastičkih dela rezultirala je ukupnim zbirom od gotovo 500 knjiga pod njegovim imenom! Asimov je literarni zanat pekao na tzv. palp naučnoj fantastici, odbijajući da se bavi književnošću van žanra (pa je, u nadobudnosti slavnog pisca, izjavio kako nikad nije “traćio vreme na Prusta, Tolstoja i ostale pompezne Grke”). Prvu priču objavio je sa 19 godina i ubrzo postao jedan od glavnih saradnika magazina “Astouding” koji je vodio DŽon Kembel ’izumitelj’ palp koncepta naučne fantastike, što podrazumeva mnogo akcije, ludih naučnika, buljookih zlih vanzemaljaca i mlade belce koji spasavaju svet i svoju draganu. Kembel je smislio i poznate zakone robotike radi obezbeđenja neprkosnovenu vlast čoveka nad tim mašinama a Asimov je ispisao seriju priča koje se iscrpljuju u dokazivanju ovih zakona odnosno njihovom pozitivnom manipulisanju. Pored robotskih dela (“Ja, robot”, “Čelične pećine”, “Golo Sunce”, “Roboti zore”, “Roboti i carstvo”...), Asimov je napisao dela koja se svrstavaju u cikluse o kosmičkom Carstvu (“Svemirske struje”, “Zvezde, prah nebeski”, “Kamičak na nebu”...), o tajanstvenoj Zadužbini (“Zadužbina”, “Druga zadužbina”, “Zadužbina i carstvo”, “Na rubu Zadužbine”...), odnosno dela omladinske proze (serija o Lakiju Staru, svemirskom rendžeru) i romane van ovih ciklusa (“Kraj večnosti”, “Fantastično putovanje I i II”, “I samo bogovi”...). Sve priče i romani zasnovani su na spekulativno-naučnim tezama oko kojih se pletu intrige i njihova rešenja, često u formi detektivske istrage. Karakterizacija likova krajnje je pojednostavljena i funkcionalna. Pred kraj života Asimov je povezao cikluse o robotima, Carstvu i Zadužbini, gradeći tako svoju ’istoriju budućnosti’. Naučna fantastika Isaka Asimova, uprkos pominjanim manjkavostima, mora se uvažavati jer uspešno zadovoljava dečačku/mladalačku žudnju za nesputanim avanturama na egzotičnim mestima; pošto je planeta Zemlja odavno istražena i prestala da bude intrigantna, svemir je postao ta nužno potrebna ’divlja granica’ čudesa i bajki XX veka, kojom haraju nova čudovišta-vanzemaljci, roboti, radi božanska tehnologija, uzdižu se i padaju carstva i junače dobri, stari, neustrašivi heroji-uzori. | |
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| Arkady and Boris StrugatskyLife and work The Strugatsky brothers (Бра́тья Струга́цкие), as they are usually called, became the best-known Soviet science fiction writers with a well developed fan base. Their early work was influenced by Ivan Yefremov. Their most famous novel Piknik na obochine has been translated into English as Roadside Picnic in 1977 and was filmed by Andrei Tarkovsky under the title Stalker. Several other works have been translated into English, but did not receive even a fraction of the critical acclaim of Russian audiences. There are three chief factors responsible: first, that failings inevitably arise when an attempt is made to translate colloquial Russian into a language that does not very well support its grammatical structure; second, that a basic understanding of the rigid mindset promoted by the Stalinist regime is a prerequisite to being able to see the contrast and rejection of uniformity that is evident in every one of the Strugatskys' works; and finally, that much of the humor of works such as Monday Begins on Saturday comes from hundreds of years' worth of cultural and literary allusions. It should be noted, however, that the Strugatsky brothers were and still are popular in many countries, including Poland, Bulgaria, and Germany, where most of their works were available in both East and West Germany. The brothers were Guests of Honour at the 1987 World Science Fiction Convention, held in Brighton, England. Noon Universe For more details on this topic, see Noon Universe. Several of the books written by the Strugatskys take part in the same universe, known as The World of Noon; another unofficial and perhaps less-known title is the Wanderers Universe. The name derives from the title of one of their texts, Noon: 22nd Century. Among the main characteristics of Noon Universe are a very high level of social, scientific, and technological development, high creativity of the general population, and very significant increases in the level of societal maturity compared to either the modern world or any of those known to exist. For instance, this world knows no monetary stimulation (indeed, money does not exist), yet every person is engaged in a profession that interests him or her. The Earth of Noon Universe is a governed by a global technocratic council composed of the world's leading scientists and philosophers. Noon Universe was described by the authors as the world in which they would like to live and work. It became highly influential for at least a generation of Soviet people, e.g. a person could speak with quotes from Strugatsky books sure of being understood. At first the authors thought of the Noon Universe to come into reality "by itself", then they realized that the only way to achieve it is inventing the High Theory of Upbringing, making upbringing of each person a unique deed. One of the important story arcs of those books is how the advanced human civilization covertly steers the development of those considered less advanced. Agents of humans are known as Progressors. At the same time, some humans suspect that a very advanced spacefaring race called Wanderers exists and is 'progressing' humanity itself. Tributes Several writers have to a varying degree paid their tribute to the works of Strugatsky brothers. Sergey Lukyanenko in his dilogy The Stars Are Cold Toys has the main character visit a world that is in many aspects strikingly similar to Earth from Noon Universe but in truth is revealed to be fundamentally different and oppressive. The plot of Kir Bulychev's novella about Alice's adventures Vacations in Space, or the Planet Five-Four is based on finding a secret base of mysterious "Wanderers" (Странники), an extinct highly advanced civilization. He also depicted his own Zone in the story Save Galya!. In late 1990s, a three-volume collection of fiction by notable contemporary Russian science fiction authors, titled The Time of the Apprentices (Время учеников), was published with an endorsement of Boris Strugatsky. Each piece in the collection was a sequel to one of Strugatskys' books. English title Russian title Published in Russian Published in English Type of work From Beyond Извне 1958 1982 novella The Land of Crimson Clouds Страна багровых туч 1959 N/A novel The Way to Amalthea (aka Destination: Amalthea) Путь на Амальтею 1960 1963 short novel Noon: 22nd Century Полдень, XXII век 1962 1978 novel / short story collection Space Apprentice (aka Probationers, includes The Gigantic Fluctuation short story) Стажеры 1962 1981 novel Escape Attempt Попытка к бегству 1962 1982 short novel Far Rainbow Далёкая Радуга 1963 1979 novel Hard to Be a God Трудно быть богом 1964 1973 novel Monday Begins on Saturday Понедельник начинается в субботу 1965 1977 novel The Final Circle of Paradise Хищные вещи века 1965 1976 novel Disquiet (initial variant of Snail on the Slope) Беспокойство 1990 (written 1965) N/A novel Snail on the Slope Улитка на склоне 1966-68 (written 1965) 1980 novel The Ugly Swans Гадкие лебеди (aka Время дождя) 1987 (written 1966-67) 1972 novel The Second Invasion from Mars (aka The Second Martian Invasion) Второе нашествие марсиан 1968 1970 novel Tale of the Troika Сказка о Тройке 1968 1977 novel Dead Mountaineer's Hotel (aka Inspector Glebsky's Puzzle) Отель «У Погибшего Альпиниста» 1970 1982 novel Prisoners of Power (aka The Inhabited Island) Обитаемый остров 1971 1977 novel Space Mowgli Малыш 1971 1982 novel Roadside Picnic Пикник на обочине 1972 1977 novel The Kid from Hell Парень из преисподней 1974 1982 novel Definitely Maybe За миллиард лет до конца света 1977 1978 novel The Doomed City Град обреченный 1988-89 (written 1970-75) N/A novel Tale of Friendship and Non-friendship Повесть о дружбе и недружбе 1980 N/A novel Beetle in the Anthill Жук в муравейнике 1980 1980 novel Limping Fate Хромая судьба 1986 N/A novel The Time Wanderers Волны гасят ветер 1986 1987 novel Overburdened with Evil Отягощённые злом 1988 N/A novel | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 5/2/2008, 18:28 | |
| Danas sam kupio knjigu Bredberija " Farenhajt 451". Radjen je i film ali posto je knjiga od 190 strana mislim da cu moci i da je procitam a ne samo odgledam. | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 5/2/2008, 19:45 | |
| lepo pa kad procitas daces je meni | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/4/2009, 21:19 | |
| - chewbacca ::
- Ranije je postojao casopis alef jesi citao nesto od toga to su sf romani sve su poznati pisci pisali imam desetak kuci
pre alefa je bio, u bivsoj sfrj, mislim da je sagreb, mesecni casopis sirius[i] alef je bio ok, al je sirius bio extra pa se postavlja pitanje ima li danas slicnih kod nas? ako neko zna neka napise | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/4/2009, 21:30 | |
| koliko ja znam nema... ceo sf nam se svodi na Lagunu i malo nesto Solaris... katastrofa.. a toliko ima na svetu novih romana.... samo nagrade hugo da se prevedu i bilo bi materijala za citanje. | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/4/2009, 21:56 | |
| a na netu, jel ima neki link za price, samo da nisu one najkrace
na srpskom, moze i inglis | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/4/2009, 22:02 | |
| Naci cu ti al ne mogu sad.. ima koliko hoces... | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 29/1/2010, 18:33 | |
| Dakle, da se i ja prikljucim... Nema sta nisam citao od SF do 2000 god. Cela rumska, desetine privatnih, dve beogradske biblioteke sam pojeo... Kuci nemam SF stvari, sem stotinak Siriusa... | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 10/2/2010, 07:10 | |
| Oh ozivela tema.. Konacno citam "Covek u visokom dvorcu" Filip DIk | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/2/2010, 16:49 | |
| Ha, nije mi palo šaka!
Omiljeno: Artur Klark-Grad i Zvezde i verzija Ka Spuštanju Noći. Remek delo SF literature, doduše kao i ostala, ovog intelektualnog džina 20 veka ali ovo mi je posebno. Sastanak sa Ramom, original, bez nastavaka koji razvodnjavaju esenciju SFa Isak Asimov Zadužbina ali i nastavci Frank Herbert Dina, prva tri dela Orson Skot Kard-Enderova igra, bez nastavaka, fantastično Lari Niven Inženjeri Prstena Goran Skrobonja-Točak, novela, extra
itd...
Nema šanse ni da se setim šta sam sve prožvakao... volim hard SF ali i dobru Space Operu, kao i dobar sf strip, mada je to teško bilo naći i u zlatno doba SF a i stripa... | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/2/2010, 17:08 | |
| Baš čitam o navodnom plagiranju od strane Camerona u vezi Avatara, pa se komentarišu ideje od braće Strugacki, preko Tihane iz Erga Predraga Uroševića... A setih se da sam čitao i priču Pola Andersona Zovi me Džo, kod nas objavljena u Siriusu br 18 iz 1977... Tek tu je ista ideja o čoveku invalidu koji svoj um pozajmljuje veštački kreiranpm biću, doduše na Jupiteru... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_JoeExtra delo... Sve se mislim da Cameron nije baš čist kao što bi hteo... I taj je gutao fantastiku iz svih pera ovog sveta, ali je i umeo da je umiksuje i "predoči" na svoj način. Vrlo isplativ, rekao bih... | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/2/2010, 17:09 | |
| Najbolja space opera je Zaduzbina | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 11/2/2010, 18:39 | |
| Ma, najbolja je Star Wars.....
I wonder if your feelings on this matter are clear, Lord Vader??? | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 12/2/2010, 11:04 | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 12/2/2010, 17:13 | |
| I don't know | |
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| Naslov: Re: SF literatura. 12/2/2010, 17:19 | |
| They are clear, my master!
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